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TO ARCHIVE / the-divine-archipelago
Setting is Worm + an original setting. Powers are from Jumpchain. A man wakes up on a strange island. Him, his sponsor, the other people in the archipelago - none of them have any idea what's going on or how they got to this hostile paradise. ON SEMI-HIATUS
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:54 AM
jumpchain can kiss my ex-shiny ex-gold ass
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:54 AM
time to die while i search all anime jumps
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 12:56 AM
Did you get any freebies?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:56 AM
ramen
fuck ton of instant ramen
and other instant foods
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:57 AM
i was about to say naruto but i dont think they do that
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:57 AM
got some kraft mac n cheese here and stuff
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:57 AM
might be that one 3 minute noodle cup thing
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:57 AM
grabbed one and another appeared in its place
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 12:57 AM
Try looking in there, then?
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:00 AM
Ctrl+f 'Weak'?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:00 AM
Vegetarian [100] (Free for Vegetable Flavored): Like all the rest of your leaf eating kind, you are weak, both of body and will. You will never be able to perform better than ten percent as well as you normally could have. Also, you are a natural target for bullies, and they will sense your presence. However, this only lasts while you eat an entirely vegetarian diet. Oh, right. Jokes aside, this is a perk... umm... because it’s ten times harder for you to do stuff, all your training is actually twenty times as effective as it otherwise would be while you’re eating that vegetarian diet. This effect takes a full day to activate, and eating even a single bite of meat ends it immediately. Ovo-Lacto and ‘Ethically Sourced Meat’ (freely given by the lifeform in question) don’t count.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:01 AM
That sounds right.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:01 AM
fuck off with that
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:01 AM
does biting your nails work
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:01 AM
read the last bit. it doesnt.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:01 AM
gdi
well, this is literally just poisoning the well
that's not a perk, its a drawback
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:02 AM
Hey, being vegetarian doesn't mean being weak!
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:02 AM
in this case, you are objectively wrong here
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:02 AM
>:(
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:02 AM
this jump is stupid, and we're stupid for interacting with it
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:03 AM
fuck this entirely. this isnt meant for a new jumper. this is meant for these fucking son goku over 9000-ass top tier jumpers.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:03 AM
this is what gets you killed
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:04 AM
better not
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:04 AM
it will
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:04 AM
dont jinx it
thats randoms job
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:05 AM
you've been all but crippled and from the sounds of it you're having a hard time even thinking, given you're doing my all lowercase thing
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:05 AM
fuckin' yep
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:05 AM
this is what kills you. thats just a fact now
like if someone has 3 heart attacks in a row, you know thats what will kill them
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:07 AM
So, top priority, we need meat.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:07 AM
yep
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:07 AM
How do we get it?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:08 AM
well, tattletale did mention there are cattle around
theyre drawn in by the grass
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:08 AM
I could look for them, but that would take time from looking for #3. What if #3 is in danger?
How long can you hang on?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:08 AM
im weak not dying
i can live
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:08 AM
don't be so sure
everything is working at 10% efficiency
which likely means your heart's liable to give out
your lungs are barely working
im not sure if you'll even be able to eat well
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 01:09 AM
Perks cannot kill anyone who purchases them just by having the perk. Minimum basic function is ensured.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:09 AM
x to doubt
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:10 AM
its wog
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:10 AM
i dont care
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:10 AM
fuck this but also i dont want #3 to die
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:10 AM
if you see any cattle while youre out there, great
its not like you cant look for multiple things
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:10 AM
Right.
Fuck! Nothing!
No cattle, no #3.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:12 AM
well, shit
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:12 AM
try again tomorrow
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:12 AM
better luck tomorrow, i guess
i think we should save up for something big
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:13 AM
at least our food problem is solved
but otherwise
fuck this entirely.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:13 AM
Agreed.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:13 AM
hard agree, that quote unquote 'perk' was half drawback and inserted to sabotage you
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:13 AM
im so fucking mad
time for anger sleep
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:14 AM
dont burst a blood vessel
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:14 AM
lets hope tomorrow wont suck ass not sure i can rn
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:14 AM
Well, it's the next day.
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:14 AM
Will is still asleep right now.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:14 AM
yeah, thats fair
saving up for the 700-1000 is probably the best bet we've got, because it can include stuff like path to victory and tinker+
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:16 AM
👍
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:16 AM
at this point, only path to victory could really solve this problem
either that or stupid amounts of continual good luck
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:16 AM
ptv good
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:17 AM
...maybe saving up for a 1000-1000 is a good idea in that case actually
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:17 AM
maybe yeah
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:17 AM
its only 3 more days
if you dont die in 2 you might be able to do it
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:17 AM
3 more until what
brain is juice
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:18 AM
17 + 3 = 20 17 days = 700-1000 cp 20 days = 1000-1000 cp
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:18 AM
oh 3 more days to get the 1000-1000 than the 700-1000
brain is juice
meat sauce
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:19 AM
on the plus side you're probably gonna come out of this significantly smarter
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:19 AM
GRAVEY thats the bitch
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:19 AM
thats fair
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:19 AM
Couldn't find anything again today.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:19 AM
damn
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:20 AM
Even with one of the capes currently down, everyone is still doing okay.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:20 AM
I wish I was there to help.
I hate having to lie to the others.
Kenta and Jess are both worried sick, and they don't even know Will is sick.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:21 AM
...hey monika, while velocity and shielder look for meat, can you look for will's .chr file
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:21 AM
Right.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:21 AM
slapping zeroes on the end of everything might actually work out
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:21 AM
Nothing.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:22 AM
well, its something to keep chipping away at, searching for
theres a lot of permutations of will smith you could use
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:22 AM
Yeah.
Well, good night.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:22 AM
sleep well everyone
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:22 AM
gn
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:23 AM
Good night.
Will's sleeping in again.
Nothing! Dammit!
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:26 AM
Nothing here, either.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:27 AM
hate this
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:27 AM
At least the civilians are enjoying the ramen.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:27 AM
wait
im being an idiot
does any of the ramen include meat products
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:29 AM
...oh my fucking god
were all fucking dumb
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:29 AM
im. im so stupid.
i need to go back to kindergarden
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:30 AM
so do i rn probably
Oh my god finally! I feel not-like-shit!
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:30 AM
FUCK that
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:30 AM
Hey, this ramen is actually pretty good.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:31 AM
I found your .chr file, but it moved away when I was looking at chat.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:31 AM
My .chr file moves?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:31 AM
apparently so
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:31 AM
Apparently.
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:31 AM
Well, we still haven't found any cattle, OR #3.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:31 AM
at least we have some good news today, even if it aint that
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:32 AM
I'll keep looking tomorrow. Yeah.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:32 AM
dont think cattle is pressing anymore tho
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:32 AM
Yeah. Just need to find #3, which should be faster.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:32 AM
Goooood morning!
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:33 AM
morning
dont forget your ramen
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:33 AM
It feels great to actually wake up at a sensible time and not feel terrible!
Right, yeah. Gotta eat meat every 24 hours.
At least I feel stronger, now.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:33 AM
thinking faster? head clearer?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:34 AM
I think so, yeah.
So at least there's that.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:35 AM
if you just exist like that for long enough, you'll probably be fine on average, which is an interesting implication
i guess if we get a hyperbolic time chamber or something...
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:35 AM
Huh. There's a thought.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:36 AM
itd require you feeling terrible all the time for a while tho
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:38 AM
I'm not exactly eager to go through that again.
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:38 AM
Well, I guess I'm searching for #3 again, then.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:38 AM
heres hopin all goes well
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:39 AM
Oh no
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:39 AM
and they got murdered
great
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:39 AM
...He's dead. Yes.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:39 AM
just the thing to cap things off. fuck.
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:39 AM
It was Gallant.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:39 AM
Fuck.
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:39 AM
Something got him. Some sort of monster with big claws.
He was on the edge of the woods, so we didn't see him earlier.
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Shielder BOT 14-Feb-21 01:40 AM
*Hurk!*
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:40 AM
...
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:40 AM
Dammit.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:40 AM
probably best to bury him in a clearing you can find later
jumpchain comes with several methods of resurrection
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:40 AM
^
Where would resurrection be?
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 01:41 AM
Cannot be disclosed.
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 01:41 AM
Fuck off with that, it's in Summoning.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:41 AM
yeah, thought as much, ty
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 01:41 AM
600CP stuff.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:41 AM
so, 600-600
easier to save up for
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:41 AM
Agreed.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:42 AM
actually 500-600 is even easier
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:42 AM
Oh, good idea!
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:42 AM
it typically goes 100-200-400-600
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:42 AM
Sometimes 100-300-600 as well, but very few 500s.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:43 AM
yee
thank god we were already savin up a little
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:45 AM
Yeah.
Hell, we could just shut up until something interesting happens.
Would that work?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:46 AM
that works, yea
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:46 AM
👍
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:46 AM
it also gives me time to finish the baba is you gauntlet
i just have one last reward and 0.1 baba is you will be complete
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:47 AM
Up to 6 crystals!
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SFX BOT 14-Feb-21 01:48 AM
*Flapflapflap*
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:48 AM
birds. fucking birds
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:48 AM
FUCK birds.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:48 AM
...hey i just realized
this is a good time for the others to swoop in to help
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:49 AM
There's a bunch of dark purple birds coming out of the trees.
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:49 AM
If Shielder leaves now, he won't be able to protect the people here.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:49 AM
shit, point
hm... how fast could fenja get there while carrying lung and monika
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:50 AM
We were having a good time. Everyone was having a party today, and it's fucking ruined.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:50 AM
Better be fast enough.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:50 AM
shielder isn't a fast flyer, and he was able to get there relatively quick
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:50 AM
Because we're doing that.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:50 AM
it shouldn't be difficult at all
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:50 AM
How many of these damn birds are there
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:51 AM
too many
they need to cease existance
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:51 AM
I think their feathers are made of metal. Sharp metal.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:52 AM
tinkertech birds?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:52 AM
Don't think they're tech, just metal.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:53 AM
Lung's using his power on Fenja, so she's going pretty fast.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:53 AM
oh fuck yea
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:54 AM
I'm pretty sure these birds are meant to be stronger than the piranhas, but they're going down hard.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:55 AM
these took down the plane?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:55 AM
Fuck, these birds are still pretty hard to put down, though.
No, those ones were bigger, these are small and fast.
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SFX BOT 14-Feb-21 01:55 AM
*CRASH!*
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:55 AM
ah, flighty fuckers
WOO
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:56 AM
Backup is here!
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:56 AM
Tides are turning right against the birds!
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Kenta BOT 14-Feb-21 01:56 AM
*ROOOOAR!*
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:57 AM
They're all dead!
Yes!
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:57 AM
Everyone looks stoked about the victory.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:57 AM
and just like that, i finish the baba is you jump
everything lines up perfectly
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:57 AM
Man. This is really a good day, isn't it?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:58 AM
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:58 AM
Looks like the group are just glad enough to have more capes on their side that they're not questioning that villains are joining the group. Ooh, nice!
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 01:58 AM
New jump found. Adding...
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:58 AM
heck yea
its kind of a mess because its a v1 and i generally dont make gauntlets, but i hope it works out
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Pika 14-Feb-21 01:59 AM
It looks really good aesthetically!
Like, damn, this is high-quality.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:00 AM
i tried to keep the aesthetic of the game intact but honestly several of the perks are genuinely busted
like LEVEL IS DONE (400 CP): When you win, you win, plain and simple. Your victories, if pyrrhic, rapidly cease to be so, and the best worst-case scenario your enemies can hope for is a stalemate. This doesn’t mean your victories won’t be kind of weak sometimes, or that losses are softened at all, but if you manage to make it through something intact, you can expect to be smiling at your success.
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Pika 14-Feb-21 02:04 AM
I mean, I have seen a 600CP perk that's a stronger version of that, so...
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:04 AM
same
...i accidentally made one of cheat's perks lmao
CIRCLE MAKE SQUARE (600 CP): You’re good at getting one thing out of another. Very good. As a matter of fact, if you have something, you can generate it infinitely. ‘Something’ can be pretty abstract, too, y’know - Love and happiness and all that. Beyond that, though, you’re able to generate more and more - Spawn traits that things have, ad infinitum. If you want a flag to give you a deep-seated sense of victory, go ahead - But why not give it to that Keke that’s next to you, or that plant? Bonus traits attached to the same thing are able to multiplicatively increase that trait, and they can blend and mix. Post-chain, you can even duplicate stuff like fiat backing and CP! It’s ridiculous.
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Pika 14-Feb-21 02:08 AM
Damn. That is busted.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:09 AM
honestly it was inspired by flooding levels with baba
i intended for it to be powerful but unwieldy
and of course post chain is post chain
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Pika 14-Feb-21 02:10 AM
Yeah.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:11 AM
and unlike infinity gauntlet, this is ex nihilo, so it can get out of hand fast
well
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Pika 14-Feb-21 02:11 AM
This perk is very, very, chaotic, isn't it?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:11 AM
basically ex nihilo welcome to my brain
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Pika 14-Feb-21 02:12 AM
(WAIT FUCK THIS ISN'T THE OOC CHANNEL)
(Oops)
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:12 AM
(RIP)
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Pika 14-Feb-21 02:12 AM
(Ah well. It be like that.)
(Might add everything in tomorrow. I'll get to the crystal roll, then finish for tonight.)
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:13 AM
(fair)
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:22 AM
11 crystals! Finally!
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:22 AM
Took long enough.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:22 AM
w00t
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:23 AM
I've had to soothe a whole lot of ruffled feathers. Two days after the bird attack, there was a huge argument about working with villains.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:23 AM
hoo boy
that aint fun
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:23 AM
Yep. It wasn't great.
And people had been injured by the birds, and were getting pissy about that.
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 02:24 AM
It was a mess.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:24 AM
sounds like it
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:24 AM
But now it's crystal time!
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:24 AM
here's hoping you get resurrection, that seems like it'll settle all those feathers right down
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:24 AM
Yeah.
It's, uh, kind of midnight right now.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:25 AM
stayed up to get it extra early huh
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:25 AM
Yup.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:25 AM
fair
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:25 AM
Well, here we go!
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:25 AM
🙏
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 02:29 AM
Refinement, Companionship, Summoning and Taming.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:29 AM
we know what we want
summoning
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 02:32 AM
Perk 1: [Self, Time] Perk 2: [Summon, Fiction] Perk 3: [Dredge, Intelligence]
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:33 AM
hm
summon fiction seems like a magical girl thing
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:34 AM
Libromancer or Re:Creators or something.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:36 AM
Atop the Fourth Wall(600): The Power of the Holopsicon is Altair’s alone, but even a single aspect of its abilities is enough to change the face of worlds. This is that aspect. By breaking through the barrier of worlds, this power gives you the ability to 'summon' a fictional character(known as a Creation) into reality, with some caveats. They have to be very well known. They don’t need to be the icon of their genre, but they should be able to claim a sizable fanbase. A good barometer is if the character is at least well known enough to have merchandise being produced of them and sold in a worldwide basis, though this isn’t literally necessary - just the general level of deman and adoration for the character’s existence. There also is the issue of a world's Restorative Power- Many worlds will naturally resist a Creation if the Creation displays abilities beyond what it is capable of ‘processing’ so to speak. In mundane worlds closer to Re:Creators' earth, magic, extreme super science and psionics will 'test' the fabric of reality and force the hand of Restorative Power. In places where these things already exist and are commonplace, these abilities will be perfectly accepted and normal. If too much stress is put on the world's Restorative Power, it will cause glitches in reality as it tries to process these anomalies and the offending Creation may be destroyed as an attempt to restore order.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:36 AM
That would be it.
Self doesn't seem to fit.
What would 'dredge' mean?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:37 AM
verb verb: dredge; 3rd person present: dredges; past tense: dredged; past participle: dredged; gerund or present participle: dredging clean out the bed of (a harbor, river, or other area of water) by scooping out mud, weeds, and rubbish with a dredge. "the lower stretch of the river had been dredged" bring up or clear (something) from a river, harbor, or other area of water with a dredge. "mud was dredged out of the harbor" bring to people's attention an unpleasant or embarrassing fact or incident that had been forgotten. "I don't understand why you had to dredge up this story" noun noun: dredge; plural noun: dredges an apparatus for bringing up objects or mud from a river or seabed by scooping or dragging. a dredger.
i feel like 'self, time' is a jojo perk
gives you the world or something
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:37 AM
Weird. Could be.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:38 AM
since 'your fighting spirit' and all
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:38 AM
So useless for this purpose, then.
What about Dredge?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:39 AM
dredge intelligence...
kind of reminds me of this one cape, codex or soemthing
im not sure how you could pull intelligence out of a person's head to summon it
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 02:40 AM
So, probably not like her power, then.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:40 AM
'the stand' is a 500 cp perk but it doesnt include 'the world'
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:43 AM
Could be something else, then.
Maybe it lets you summon kiddie versions of yourself.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:44 AM
that some anime bs right there
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:44 AM
And also useless.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:45 AM
Which do we even pick?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:45 AM
none of them
we figure it all out first
we have to
or gallant's dead
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:46 AM
Right.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:46 AM
Cell Division (500 CP): Mitosis. A very important process of splitting off new cells from old ones. And now, it is something that you can do as well. Once per month, you can split off a duplicate of yourself. This will take about eight hours to do, and while you are doing so, you can shape what they will be like. Their mind will be based on your own, though you can accentuate certain factors, and they will be unshakeably loyal to you. Their body will be based on your current form, though you can mix in features of alt-forms that you have. You can choose to divide perks or powers that you have between yourself and a duplicate, either giving them an entire perk or splitting a perk or power between the two of you. Split powers may grow back over time, though it will take quite a while. You can have up to twelve duplicates at a time, and they will recombine with you at the end of each Jump, granting you their memories and returning all powers to you. They also recombine with you if destroyed, though some memories may be lost in that case. You can recreate specific duplicates again at a later date if desired.
the word self and time comes up a lot in that
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:48 AM
That could be it?
What about Dredge?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:49 AM
i genuinely dont know whats up with dredge
i was planning on killing myself by going through 300+ jump documents again while looking for the word dredge
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:51 AM
What does Google autofill telll you?
If you type in 'dredge ', what shows up?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:52 AM
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:52 AM
Any of those have jumps?
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:53 AM
Yes
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:53 AM
dredgen yor is destiny
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:53 AM
Also MTG
Magic the Gathering
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:53 AM
Oh!
What does the mechanic do, then?
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:53 AM
Return something from the graveyard to the hand
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:54 AM
Dredge is the keyword attributed to the Golgari in the Ravnica block.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:54 AM
So recycle used resources
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:54 AM
let me find the mtg jump
...jumps
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:54 AM
Aren't there... a lot of those.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:55 AM
im committed to dying
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:55 AM
I have the file with them all pass it to you?
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:55 AM
At least ctrl+f exists.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:56 AM
DREDGE (600CP) Necromancy is no easy feat. Many of those who practice it within the Golgari Swarm are only able to create mindless, shambling servants. However, your talent for necromancy goes far beyond that. You can bring back creatures with intelligence and power equal to that which they possessed while still alive. You can also choose to add the zombie creature type to your own, becoming an undead version of whatever you were before - perhaps as a regular zombie, or maybe as a Lich, or something of a similar nature.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:56 AM
And that could be it
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:57 AM
the best of subpar options
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:57 AM
Ooh!
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:57 AM
we got one of these wrong
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:57 AM
Yep
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:57 AM
We did.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:57 AM
we need to get the last one right so we can get the 4th perk
its the self, time one
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:57 AM
Hell.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:57 AM
Temporal Clones
It can’t be myriad of self Thats 1200
Any bring you from another timeline perk?
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 02:59 AM
Can we ask for the system to reiterate the perk?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:59 AM
thatd be good
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:00 AM
Hey system, can you throw us a bone here?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:00 AM
enough reiterations and we can piece together the actual perk
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:00 AM
At least from what genre is the jump?
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 03:00 AM
Perk 1: [Host, Transform]
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:01 AM
self, time or host,transform
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:01 AM
It’s the sphere of time from mage the ascension?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:01 AM
Again?
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 03:01 AM
Function has limited use.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:01 AM
It is
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:01 AM
Damn.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:01 AM
Motherfucker
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:01 AM
host implies something attached to you
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:01 AM
Okay, I’m 70-80% sure it is the time sphere of Mage the Ascension/Awakening
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:02 AM
We haven't gotten a fourth perk yet, so that wasn't it.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:02 AM
Yeah your past
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:02 AM
it isn't the time sphere
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:02 AM
Well it can be something similar
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:02 AM
or it could be something different
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:02 AM
Because I’m drawing blanks here
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:02 AM
Transforms a host into yourself over time?
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:02 AM
To something that is self, time, transforming and host
The Ten fingers from Re zero? (edited)
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:03 AM
that sounds right william
harry potter bullshit or something
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:03 AM
I know it
Or at least something that gets similar enough
Spirit Possession- 400 No one seems to be all that fond of you. They keep trying to stamp you out, even when all you do is bring them truth, joy and an appreciation of the finest things in life. Guess they’re just not into burnt out, used up corpses for family members. But all those witch hunts never worked on you. With a process taking a few minutes, you can place a few of your genes into another person, which turns them into a ‘Finger’ for you. Anyone who has become one of your Fingers can be turned into a vessel for your soul, destroying or at least seriously harming the resident soul as you force your way in. So long as one of your Fingers is around, you’ll automatically possess them when you might otherwise die, provided your soul wasn’t destroyed. Some people with exceptionally mighty souls compared to yours can force you back out and some people can’t even be made into fingers, as it requires at least a small affinity for spirits. Up to ten fingers may be made at a time, no more.
From Re zero
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:04 AM
this is 500-600
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:04 AM
He cannot roll lower ones? (edited)
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:04 AM
yes, he cannot roll lower ones
that is the point of the baseline
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:05 AM
Well anyone else know any series with anything similar?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:05 AM
prototype?
a lot of things with superplague type things
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:06 AM
Resident evil
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:07 AM
Can we clarify 'Host'?
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:07 AM
And it isn’t resident evil
It’s a 400 one again
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 03:07 AM
Note: By doing this, you will be unable to use this feature for a while. Proceed?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:07 AM
ugh
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:07 AM
True Hive Mind from prototype
600 cp
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:08 AM
this could also be some kind of spy bullshit
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:08 AM
No response.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:08 AM
insert sleeper personalities
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:09 AM
Do we just get System's help on this?
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:09 AM
Okay
We can deal without its help for one week or two
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:09 AM
i dont think clarifying 'host' is gonna help
and shutting down the whole ass system for clarification over this is terrible
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:10 AM
Right.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:12 AM
itd mean that in an emergency you might not be able to get any perks to help you
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:13 AM
I thought it was just shutting down the clarification function for a while?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:13 AM
oh
sorry
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:13 AM
Lol, np.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:13 AM
in that case, go for it i guess
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 03:15 AM
In this case, the 'host' is one who's been infected by the user's DNA, which contains a copy of their ego. It is based on the Ectonurites' ability for their DNA to retain sapience, though in this case a host is needed.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:15 AM
ben 10
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:16 AM
Ben 10
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:16 AM
and we still have one more perk after this one to figure out
Me, Me, Me [600 – Discount for Timewalker] – Sometimes, all the time travel in the world can’t help you outrun the reaper. Sometimes your time is up and you have no way to escape. That’s why it always pays to have a backup plan. Taking a page from the Ectonurites, a copy of your ego exists within your DNA, recreating your mind and personality when introduced to a new body. Whether from a transforming device or something as mundane as a blood infusion, the ‘lucky’ host will steadily transform into a clone of you, knowledge and abilities and all. The downside is that these clones are a LOT weaker than the original, going down with about a tenth of the effort needed to take you down...unless you bite the dust for good, that is. If the ‘real’ you is dead and gone for good, your consciousness will find its way to the one of these clones and become the genuine article, back and at full power. If someone wants to put you down for good, they need to get rid of these duplicates. Be warned, until these clones actually become the ‘real’ you, it is possible for the transformation to be resisted or cured if the infection is somehow scrubbed from their bodies...but the weak-willed and unaware will be easy picking for you. This infection only applies to those you wish it to.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:16 AM
Yep (edited)
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 03:21 AM
Perk 4: [Sea Creature, Sapient]
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:21 AM
So summon the kraken
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:21 AM
i dont wanna solve that
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:21 AM
Sapient sea creatures? What is this, The Little Mermaid?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:21 AM
i am 3 steps from mental collapse
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Pika 14-Feb-21 03:21 AM
(Mood)
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:22 AM
It could be a lot really
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:22 AM
i hate this system and everything it stands for
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 03:22 AM
Same.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 03:22 AM
The System is the real main villain
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:22 AM
i havent slept and this has given me a headache bad enough to make me cry. i hate it
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:23 AM
So which ones seems more useful to save gallant
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:23 AM
Oof. Maybe you should get some rest, then.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:23 AM
could go for necromancy i guess, then try to get medical skills to bring him from undead to alive
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:23 AM
Yeah sleep hours
Fair
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 03:24 AM
I mean, only one of them offers resurrection, so...
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:24 AM
no, im not going to bed until we have a solution to this problem
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:24 AM
What is putting him in danger?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:24 AM
he's dead
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:24 AM
Oh
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:24 AM
this was to resurrect him
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:24 AM
Yeah the MTG perk
That one is the one we need
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:25 AM
yeah
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:25 AM
We saw a corpse when arriving to an island correct
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:25 AM
no
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:28 AM
So Dredge?
If this is our best bet for Gallant.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:29 AM
dredge, then aim for medical skills
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:30 AM
Got it.
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 03:30 AM
Congrats on finding the rez perk, by the way.
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Pika 14-Feb-21 03:31 AM
(And I'm pinning for now.)
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:31 AM
(thank god) (edited)
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Pika 14-Feb-21 03:32 AM
(I def ran this one too late into the night lol)
(Anyway, gn!)
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 12:13 PM
Do you wish to add an undead creature type to yourself?
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 12:13 PM
Yes please
Gallant please
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:13 PM
I think it's asking if I want an undead creature type.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 12:14 PM
Oh no
Then no
No lich for you
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 12:14 PM
You can also choose to add the zombie creature type to your own, becoming an undead version of whatever you were before - perhaps as a regular zombie, or maybe as a Lich, or something of a similar nature.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 12:15 PM
If you have one with significant benefits maybe, but I'm going to go with no on general principle
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:15 PM
Agreed.
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 12:18 PM
Liches are approaching immortality, having sealed their soul in a phylactery. Spirits can fly. Zombies are more difficult to put down than humans. Vampires have many strengths that humans do not.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:18 PM
And I'm sure they all have weaknesses too.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 12:21 PM
Liches in fiction generally don't have any significant weaknesses aside from the phylactery Well, they're ugly and rotting I guess
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:22 PM
Which I'm sure will be great for morale.
I'm not really enthused by any of these, I'll be honest.
I'm just here for the necromancy.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 12:25 PM
Yeah seems about right
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:26 PM
So, no thanks, system.
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 12:27 PM
Noted.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 12:27 PM
So? How's the necromancy knowledge?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:27 PM
I want to hurl
God. This is all so fucking awful.
Well. Good news, I know how to bring people back as intelligent undead, with their full power intact and full continuity of consciousness.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:35 PM
Ah necromancy can be yucky
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:35 PM
Bad news, the rituals required are...
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:35 PM
Wheres it from?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:35 PM
I know how to get around the problem, but I'll need resources for it. Magic the Gathering.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:35 PM
Ah
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:36 PM
I also need to connect to sources of coloured mana to be able to do this. Black and green, ideally.
And that means I'll need to travel to other islands, and we don't have a city to loot and build a plane from.
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 12:37 PM
Dammit!
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 12:38 PM
This feels like what happened last time, except reversed.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:38 PM
Do you have wood? Any trees?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:38 PM
Lots.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:38 PM
Build a boat
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:39 PM
But I bet there's fuck-off fish in the sea, just like there were fuck-off birds in the sky. Still, you're right, a boat is the best bet, unless we can mine up some metal or something.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:40 PM
Yeah
If you can get it sealed and make it sturdy
Should be able to withstand fish
Unsure about seaweed though
It also let's you become a viking and/or pirate crew raiding islands for supplies
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:41 PM
Ha, it would.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:41 PM
actually, why not just try to get flight?
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 12:41 PM
Let's ask around and see if anyone knows how to build boats, then.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:42 PM
Oh, there's an idea.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:42 PM
Because hed also need to bring the supplies back
Boats let you gather more
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:42 PM
boats can sink
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 12:42 PM
I thought you had an entire 'Travelling' domain?
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:42 PM
Oh true
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:42 PM
which includes teleportation
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 12:43 PM
Well, I guess we can wait longer It's not like we wouldn't have to wait for a boat
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:43 PM
So, we're waiting on crystals again.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:43 PM
this also helps you power up for any new islands via multiple attempts to get something
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So, we're waiting on crystals again.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 12:44 PM
Seems so I mean, your basic supplies might have enough to cobble together a shitty raft and oars or something I guess
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 12:44 PM
There's a few boaters here, and they know the basic structures of different kinds of boats, but nobody knows how to build them.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:44 PM
I'd say shitty raft isnt the best bet
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:44 PM
0-400 might be enough for doormaker
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:44 PM
Will already died to birds
Let's not add sea monsters to the list
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:45 PM
Shitty raft sounds like it's begging to be capsized by hellfish.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:45 PM
exactly
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:45 PM
Exaftly is
Blegh auto correct
Exactly*
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:47 PM
So do we have a shot at building a bigger boat while I look for good perks?
Three constellations at a time means we have just under a 1/6 chance of getting Travel.
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 12:48 PM
If you need to connect to lands, could Landlord also help?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:49 PM
honestly from the sound of it, building a boat is like asking for trouble
even if you dont use it, someone will
we've been over the issues with boats
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:50 PM
Boat and lots of spears
Spear fishing
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 12:50 PM
Would need a pretty big piece of land to get anything special from it I think Like the farm might be big enough Maybe if there happens to be a graveyard in there somewhere that would help
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:50 PM
that wont really fix the issue of many fuckoff hellfish
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:50 PM
That was the Leviathan island though
We dont know what's in just the ocean yet
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:51 PM
so why gamble lives?
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:51 PM
Point.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:51 PM
The summoning constellation also has taming, right? There could be stuff in there to protect against monster attacks.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:51 PM
we dont know whats in the ocean, so for all we know, its chock full of unlimited hellfish
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 12:52 PM
Travel > Landlord > The Self > Improvement > Summoning/Taming > Everything Else?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 12:52 PM
sounds like it
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:53 PM
Well, not much left to do but wait. I'll bond with this island in the meantime.
Took all day, but I'm bonded with it.
It can give one black or one white mana.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 12:56 PM
Do you actually know any magic other than necromancy
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:56 PM
I need three black or green mana plus three of any colour if I want to veto resources entirely. I just need two b/g and one other if I have all the resources I need. 'Fraid not.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 12:57 PM
So, Resources and Toolkits are priority constellations too.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 12:57 PM
What kind of resources would you need
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:58 PM
Animal parts, mostly, from a whole lot of different kinds of animals. A lot of herbs too. I can probably make do with whatever I find.
Human parts would be the best for bringing back a human, but... you know.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 12:59 PM
Yeah
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 12:59 PM
I'll also need specially treated metal, but we have nails in the tool box, so I can use those.
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:00 PM
Maybe put Scavenging on the priority list too, then.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:01 PM
if some of the baba is you perks are in there, i know just the one that'd work
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 01:01 PM
Note: Baba is You is still in the process of being added.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:01 PM
Damn.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:02 PM
rip
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:02 PM
So, I guess we're saving up again, then.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:02 PM
seems like it
alternatively, we could just 500-600 again to try and get another resurrection method
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:03 PM
I think AF seemed to imply that Dredge was the rez method.
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 01:03 PM
I mean, I could've sworn there was more than just Dredge, but when I checked again...
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:04 PM
it might be hiding other methods due to you revealing dredge existed
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 01:05 PM
I hope it didn't actually delete them
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Awake 14-Feb-21 01:05 PM
I doubt it
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:05 PM
now that you said it its probably actively doing that
so thanks
:/
this system is actively malevolent, at this point i just assume itll do what it can to screw you over
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 01:07 PM
Hmm
So are people getting tired of fruit and ramen yet
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:10 PM
Well, I waited four days to get four crystals. Surprisingly, no. There's enough variety in the instant foods that nobody's gotten sick of it yet.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:10 PM
tastes of home too
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:10 PM
You know, given that the fruit are basically giant cherries, it's good that nobody has a stone fruit allergy.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 01:11 PM
lol once again the food problems are solved in the weirdest way
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 01:11 PM
There's weirder ways imo.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 01:12 PM
true
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Awake 14-Feb-21 01:12 PM
Yeah
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:12 PM
Well, I have a 0-400 crystal now, time to pray for it to work.
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 01:14 PM
The Self, Recruiting, Supplements
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:14 PM
The self
Time to get you some things
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:15 PM
Given that it could get me flight, I'm inclined to agree.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 01:15 PM
Yeah
Treat your selfn
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:16 PM
Essential Body Mod and Personal Reality are both in Supplements, so they could be useful too, potentially.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 01:16 PM
Oh shit right
Personal reality especially
I change my vote to supplement
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:17 PM
I've opened doors in the Flooded Shelter, Key Link could be useful there.
The Self or Supplements, then?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:20 PM
the self, a certain skill
to say nothing of other abilities that could come from that
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:20 PM
2-1 for The Self. Guess I know what I'm picking.
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 01:33 PM
Perk 1: [Power, Communicate] Perk 2: [Powers, Seperate] Perk 3: [Distress, Range]
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:33 PM
Power Communicate a charisma one?
Power Separate, a toggle?
Distress Range, Danger Sense?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:34 PM
power communicate might be like communicating at a distance with superpowers or msth
powers separate might break powers down into composite parts
the danger sense sounds like the only thing it could be on perk 3 tho
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:35 PM
Fair
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:35 PM
given you have synthesis, my vote is perk 2
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:35 PM
Also true
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 01:35 PM
wait no
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:36 PM
I want to try to get the fourth but who has the mental fortitude for it
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:36 PM
Wait, which seperate is this? Seper-eight or seper-it?
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 01:36 PM
synthesis already has an unlockable that would let him break things down, we just haven't spent on it yet
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 01:36 PM
'Seper-it'.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:36 PM
ah, shit
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:36 PM
Yeah, if we wanted it, we could just buy Synthesis Plus.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 01:36 PM
I guess it's not even a breaking down thing though
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:37 PM
...this could be complete arsenal
a ton of separate powers
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:37 PM
A flying brick?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:37 PM
the eidolon package
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:37 PM
That one is flying, super durability and strength and I know a lot of those for 400
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the eidolon package
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:38 PM
The one I know is 600 to 800
Unless
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:38 PM
you are mistaken
Complete Arsenal (400 CP) - You are a poor man’s Eidolon. You have three slots which if given a minute will be filled with a power that somehow fits your current desires or needs in some way, starting out at mid range for a parahuman and growing to high mid range over the course of five to ten minutes. You have no control over the specifics of these powers beyond keeping or releasing a power, and while they will always be of use to your needs and wants these are not tailored to your exact whims. This doesn’t change the incredible versatility this power grants you, but these powers won’t be on the same level as the others on these lists. You have an innate understanding of what these powers are and how to use them as normal.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:39 PM
Canon Power
Canon Power - 400 CP The ‘let Wildbow do it for me’ option. Pick any power possessed by a cape in canon except for Path to Victory. Yes, even Eidolon’s. You get that power, with tweaks to appearance and useability to keep you from being too much of a cookie-cutter clone. Removing substantial limitations or changing core functionality requires taking it as an Altpower or Freeform Design. Yes, this does include Queen Administrator... as of the start of canon.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:40 PM
lucky, we were already told, no generic worm fanfic powers
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:40 PM
Okay
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:40 PM
still, 2 is multiple powers - betters odds we get something good from it
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:40 PM
True
So 2
👍 1
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:41 PM
You're sure about this?
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:41 PM
I mean
Or it’s multiple and comes with a lot
Or it lets you break powers
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:42 PM
I don't see 'seperate' in the text.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:42 PM
Is 50-50
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:42 PM
whatever it is, it has multiple powers that are separate from one another
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 01:42 PM
We hope anyway
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:42 PM
It's pretty rare that a keyword isn't in the text, but it sometimes happens.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:42 PM
as my deteriorating mental health can attest to
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:43 PM
If you want security I’m pretty sure three is some kind of danger sense
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:43 PM
lmao
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 01:43 PM
F
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:43 PM
It could be the basic of spider package
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:43 PM
three wouldn't be just the spider sense from the spiderman package
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:43 PM
I said the basics from it
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:43 PM
the system tries to get keywords that fit the whole thing
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:44 PM
Also true but it could be a troll
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:44 PM
it could be
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:44 PM
But what you need right now William?
Anything urgent?
Or you can risk it?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:44 PM
[Distress, Range] not worth it i would say, my vote is locked on 2
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:44 PM
Oh I’m still on 2
But it is what William wants
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:45 PM
None of these seem particularly applicable to what I need right now, so go ham.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:45 PM
2 it is
Let’s gamble
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:46 PM
You're absolutely certain?
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:46 PM
Man, I’m not
But thats the gamble
2 if it’s good
Great
If it’s not well what can you do
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:46 PM
its the choice we're sticking with, but we'll never be certain without explicitly knowing what it is
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:46 PM
As they said the luck favors the bold
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 01:46 PM
No we aren't certain But we don't know any of the perks for sure so eh, might as well
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:46 PM
And stupid
And we are bold and stupid
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:47 PM
well, we're certainly stupid
jury's still out on boldness
lol
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:47 PM
Ha
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System BOT 14-Feb-21 01:49 PM
Perk 1: Breadth and Depth (Ward) (400CP) For one reason or another you have a very close relationship with your shard, you're practically bleeding into each other at this point, but thankfully with this perk you're definitely the dominant one in the relationship. What this does is manyfold, at bare minimum your sechen ranges are almost always very high in ways that are beneficial to you and in general your power acts almost as if following your subconscious will, to the extent that you might as well be communicating in real time, this'll also dull the effects of your power's downsides. Secondly your power gives you seemingly instinctual subconscious advice and information in matters of dealing with powers, shards, and combat in general. Lastly your power will attempt to communicate with others to try and influence them into increasing your chances of survival but at least within the confines of the Ward timeline this isn't really going to be relevant. Perk 3: Sechen Ranges (Ward) (100CP) Sechen ranges are the phenomenon where the details of a power vary over time within normal operation, at times they will perform noticeably better with slightly more raw ability and versatility that can edge them even slightly outside the normal confines of their power. This is most noticeable with increased breadth and depth or when closer to the circumstances of your trigger, and what precise direction the range extends in will change according to the situation, and your current psychology and condition, many parahumans see a steady rise in power overtime as a result of increased closeness and familiarity with their power to a reasonable degree. By default you already have that for powers purchased here but by purchasing this the powers as you purchase them will be considered the low end of your range and this will also be applied to other abilities you possess from other Jumps now and in the future.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:50 PM
Nice
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:50 PM
deep sigh of course it was ward
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:50 PM
Of course it was
The freebie of the two companions
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:51 PM
Would Perk 1 have given me a shard?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:52 PM
maybe
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:52 PM
The two would have
Or open communication with the system
Motherfucker (edited)
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:52 PM
hey fenris, is there any way to retool the perk selection thing?
it occurs to me we keep getting screwed out of good stuff and stuck with terrible things
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 01:54 PM
I... maybe? If Jump-chan was here, she could probably manage it, but...
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:54 PM
You are debtor
Just eat what you don’t like
You could do it
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:54 PM
In other news, I have a couple of tokens in my pocket.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:54 PM
Oh nice
Also what is power number 2
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:54 PM
theyre probably for powers or something
this is power number 2 lucky
fucking chuck e cheese tokens
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Velocity BOT 14-Feb-21 01:55 PM
Can you use them on anything?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:56 PM
I think so?
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:56 PM
No I mean the text
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:56 PM
we don't get that until we figure it out
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:56 PM
Oh great
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:57 PM
The tokens say '1 Free Hug' on them.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:57 PM
sounds like some scp bullshit
ill go looking
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:57 PM
I think I could use a hug right now, honestly.
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SFX BOT 14-Feb-21 01:57 PM
*Poof*
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 01:57 PM
"What? Huh?"
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
oh hi jumpchan
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
Okay that’s cool
Hi Jumpy~tan (edited)
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
"How did I get here?"
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
welcome to a Whole Fucking Mess
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
Fiat
Like always
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
she cant hear us id imagine
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
A businesswoman with angel wings just appeared.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
thats jumpchan, she's responsible for jumpchain things
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
Ye
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 01:58 PM
"Oh, I see. Hug tokens from the cup noodle gauntlet."
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 01:59 PM
CUP NOODLE GAUNTLET
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 01:59 PM
"Well, c'mere, I'm not the best hugger in the omniverse for nothing."
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:00 PM
Ramen Variety [Free]: A staple of Japanese cooking, a true ramen can be a religious experience, a mixture of ingredients and broth that is mindblowing. Chefs spend years trying to perfect just the basics… but this is instant ramen. Invented by Momofuku Ando, instant ramen noodles have saved millions from starvation… and millions more from the munchies. Globally known as the ultimate in affordable foods, ramen kicked off the entire instant food culture.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:00 PM
"Uh, before that, I think I have some support issues I need help with?"
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:00 PM
"Sure, shoot."
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:01 PM
A Hug [Free for Everyone]: Once the Gauntlet is done, you get a hug from Jump-Chan. It’s not a sexual hug. It is, however, the best hug ever. It’s warm, intimate, compassionate, comforting, and lets you know that everything’s going to be okay somehow. This hug is also not addictive, and will remain with you, letting you know someone in the universe cares. Because everyone needs a hug sometimes. You get a token you can trade for another hug whenever you really really need one, and the token respawns once a month if used or given away to another person so they can use it. In fact, you get another one free once a month if you give the first to someone who can really use it. It’s nice to share
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:01 PM
"The system that's running my jump seems a bit... weird."
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:01 PM
"Yeah, sure, I can check it out."
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:01 PM
oh thank god
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:02 PM
"...You're not on the jumper's registry."
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:02 PM
"I'm not? So this really is some sort of bootleg system."
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:03 PM
"Sigh. I hate those."
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:03 PM
Let’s Mix Something Up [400] (Discount Mr. Noodles Brand): What good are powers and perks if you can’t mix and match at will? That’s silly. The best thing about soup is that you can toss pretty much anything into and, hey presto, it’s still soup… unless you add too much starch, at which point you might have batter… or dough… anyway. You may now combine up to eight perks, abilities, or powers into a single mega-perk… and you may create as many mega-perks as you have abilities to combine. The exact details of how they combine is up to you.
This is the perk
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:03 PM
"Is it one of those ones where you get perks over time?"
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:03 PM
Ye
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:03 PM
oh wow, thats just synthesis but better
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:03 PM
"Yeah."
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:04 PM
could combine Let's Mix Something Up with Synthesis for all the benefits while reducing the downsides
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:04 PM
How is that seperate, though?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:05 PM
"Actually, I have a power that lets me add people to a chatroom thingy in my head, maybe that'll help?"
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:05 PM
Let’s Not Add That [400] (Discounted for Chili Flavored): To quote a great and wise sage ‘Gotta keep ‘em separated!’ Sometimes you get abilities, perks, skills, powers, or pools that would naturally fuse with others (for example, levels in two different classes in the same system.) Normally, such mixing, as in soup, is all for the good... but sometimes, you just want to keep your fish cakes from mixing with your egg. Why? Maybe you’ve got a thing against food touching. Maybe you don’t like how they taste when combined. Maybe you just want to level up Cleric and Barbarian separately. Either way, that’s what this perk does. Sometimes, you just don’t want things spiced up.
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:06 PM
"Might as well. That should let us get to the bottom of this."
Helloooo?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:06 PM
hi jump-chan, admin fenris is the one who got this system dumped on their doorstep so
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 02:06 PM
hello
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:06 PM
you may wanna talk to em
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:06 PM
'Let's Not Add That' looks right.
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 02:07 PM
Oh thank god, a professional.
Hi yes this system is a mess.
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Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:07 PM
...I'm looking through the files, and I can see that.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:07 PM
can you give admin privileges to jump-chan fenris
if she doesnt have em already
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 02:08 PM
Sure, gimme a mo.
Does that work for you?
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:09 PM
Yep, it does!
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:09 PM
woo
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:09 PM
...This is a MESS.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:09 PM
Of course it is
Jumpy~tan (edited)
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:09 PM
we've been screaming that at the top of our lungs for days
weeks, in will's case
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:10 PM
The system for getting perks is terrible.
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:10 PM
Agreed. This is absolutely awful design! Is it MEANT to make people tear their hair out?
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 02:10 PM
Probably
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:10 PM
it encourages mind-numbing levels of research on a massive variety of jumps, then punishes you if you don't look through EVERYTHING
good if you happen to be a jump doc researcher
bad for a layman
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:11 PM
Ye
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:12 PM
I think the intention was for the exact perks to be a mystery? Like, you're not supposed to know what they are at all. Except, if that's the case, then why does it REWARD looking through jumpdocs?
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 02:12 PM
System 🅱roke
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:12 PM
^^^^^^^^^^ (edited)
that doesnt even get into the recursion bullshit
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:13 PM
Recursion?
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 02:13 PM
Omniversal time loop.
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:13 PM
...Oh.
...Oh no.
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 02:13 PM
Yes.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:13 PM
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:14 PM
This is an apocalypse scenario. I cannot overstate how dangerous this is.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:15 PM
True
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:15 PM
ah, hell
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:15 PM
Someone made an indefinite, omniversal time loop? And used it for a *bootleg jumpchain*?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:15 PM
honestly, at this point the running theory is the great architect having a laugh somehow
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:15 PM
That is the *opposite* of their personality.
They *prevent* apocalypse scenarios, not *make* them!
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:16 PM
so is there an evil great architect out there somewhere
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:16 PM
...
If there is, we're all doomed.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:17 PM
Oh shit its jump-chan
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:17 PM
this system is a mess, and this is an apocalypse scenario - either the great architect is fucking around and theres hidden safeguards tucked away in here, or someone who's shit at making things doomed us all
like a nega-architect
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:18 PM
Trust me, this is going straight up the chain. We'll be getting 95% of the researchers at Jumpchain Inc onto this.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:18 PM
oh thank god
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:18 PM
Oh good
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:18 PM
in the meantime, we need to ensure will doesn't die, or the loop resets
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:19 PM
I'll see if I can rejig the perks system while I'm here.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:19 PM
thank you
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:19 PM
...Whoever made this, they knew I'd be here. I just found a message from them.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:19 PM
Yay rejigged perk system
Oh?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:19 PM
oh dear lord.
Fucking Precognition
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:20 PM
The Negarchitect Everywhere System, just shows up
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 02:20 PM
The problem is more because the precognition worked on Jump-chan when it probably shouldn't
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:20 PM
'Hello, Jump-chan. As we both agree, balance is very, very important, so to make my system better, you must first make it worse. Ciao!'
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 02:20 PM
Oh no.
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Admin Fenris BOT 14-Feb-21 02:21 PM
...Fuck.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:21 PM
stripping out some of the choice in exchange for clarity might work
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:21 PM
Ah shit
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 02:22 PM
What, like we only get two choices, but they get a short, actually useful sentence description?
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:22 PM
'PS: Perhaps some of the little people in your chat would be happy to help with ideas ;) '
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:22 PM
someone's playing jigsaw on a benefactorial level
😬
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:22 PM
This is a nightmare scenario.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:23 PM
hard agree
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 02:23 PM
Why is omniversal time loop an apocalypse scenario though
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:23 PM
I'd say a way to make it worse is including drawbacks but, fuck random drawbacks
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:23 PM
thats a terrible idea
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:23 PM
Yeah
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:24 PM
3 drawback choices in a row? some can be scaling enemies? bad
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:24 PM
If your world was trapped in a Grey Boy loop, would you consider that an apocalypse?
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:24 PM
No I mean reveal all the perks by taking optional drawback it rolls
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:24 PM
im sticking with the 'limit choices/add clarity' option
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:24 PM
Yes
I agree with limit and add clarity
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:25 PM
Nothing moves forward. 10 years is short enough thag time might as well be paused across the entire omniverse.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:25 PM
Yeah 10 years is nothing on a cosmic scale
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:27 PM
Looks like I can limit it to either only picking between three domains, or only picking three perks from three random domains. In exchange, you'd get short perk descriptions instead of these stupid keywords.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:27 PM
three perks from three random domains
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:27 PM
Yeah
More variety
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:27 PM
we would be keeping breadth and depth and it isn't that big a change anyways
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:28 PM
The one issue there is that there'd be less focus in picking perks, but that's partially mitigated anyway.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:29 PM
you're already pretty buckshot, why not add more?
it'll also ensure you find perks you otherwise wouldn't be seeing at all
like, for example, the odds of us ever picking farming are low at best, but for all we know it has the holy grail in it or something
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:30 PM
Point.
Yeah, that sounds good.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:30 PM
we literally dont know what we're missing out on
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:31 PM
If you guys wanted more features, you could take more restrictions.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:31 PM
while im mostly good with just knowing what we're getting into, whats some examples of features and restrictions that you see?
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:32 PM
It's very, very flexible, so I can do pretty much anything within reason.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:32 PM
Y'know itd be nice if we had an easier time upgrading supplement stuff we might get like personal reality or bodymod
Instead of waiting for the random perks from those
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:33 PM
i mean, those arent exactly game changers as is
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:33 PM
True
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:33 PM
body mod is really, really basic
personal reality is just a pocket dimension, which fulfills the same purpose of any building by our standards
i dont think that's worth sabotaging ourselves
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:33 PM
Fair
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:34 PM
I could let you pick an essence from the EBM for its' discounts, though you'd need to take a drawback or two from that doc for no CP or something.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:35 PM
There are some decent freebies for some of those essences, unsure what the drawbacks it has are though
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:35 PM
Or the Supplements into the time loop instead of the random rolls. 50-100EP and WP to spend per loop.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:35 PM
True
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:35 PM
We dont know how long each loop will last though, which raises the issue of never upgrading those, hmm
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:37 PM
time loop would be some serious sabotage given upgrades may not carry
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:37 PM
Yeah
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 02:37 PM
Also true
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:38 PM
50EP and 50CP per loop for perks that are auto-retained between loops, plus a starting stipend of 500WP and an essence of choice. In exchange, you'd need to pick 200CP worth of drawbacks from each supplement.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:39 PM
Hmm
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:39 PM
not worth it
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:39 PM
Yeah not worth it
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:40 PM
With how infrequent loops are, I'm inclined to agree.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:40 PM
You did bring up the two drawbacks for the essence discounts, which might be a good idea for making the perks more available
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:40 PM
that is, of course, assuming will can spend crystals to unlock further tiers of that stuff
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:40 PM
I could take the drawbacks down to 100 per doc in exchange for a short-loop punishment.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:41 PM
still bad
we're against the loop plan
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:41 PM
Yeah
Loop-ties stuff becomes fucky if Will gets any perks that boost his survivability enough
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:42 PM
Isn't this essentially free JP, in a way?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:42 PM
it's also permanent drawbacks
permanent
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:42 PM
Yeah
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:42 PM
You would be able to switch them out between loops, if need be.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:42 PM
Essential body Mod has a very easy choice for drawback that wouldnt effect stuff much
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:42 PM
And they're just 100CP drawbacks.
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:43 PM
Or rather, 100CP *worth* of drawbacks.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:44 PM
Standout 1 just makes you stand out a bit more, worth 100 ep
Nothing truly negative with it
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:44 PM
sunbro, there are monsters everywhere
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:44 PM
They already home in on them, Hours
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:44 PM
you wanna tell me being unable to hide as well from em is good?
i don't wanna put a target on will's back
that's asking to kill him
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:45 PM
And I think it means more in crowds and society
You stick out
Not "oh you cant hide?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:46 PM
it still strikes me as a bad idea, but we can get clarification from jumpchan
i think a good question is: why do you want this to happen so badly? body mod isn't even that good
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:46 PM
Essential body Mod has some good perks on it, that'd be cheaper with this
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:48 PM
i'll give you that, but more problems to deal with isn't good in the slightest, and assuming all works in the best possible context can and will cause problems
drawbacks are not light and fluffy things, generally speaking, and im seriously concerned that even a 100 cp one could sabotage will badly
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 02:50 PM
Standout (+100/+200/+300 EP): You stand out to sentient beings. ○ I (Noticed): You simply stand out. Others take notice of you no matter where you go, though their interest is usually benign. This drawback makes it difficult to move unnoticed through crowds.
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:50 PM
So, unless there's sapient monsters, then that would only affect people.
Of course, feel free to propose further restrictions.
If you don't like these drawbacks, then you can pick something else.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:52 PM
...hm. just had a thought, since im probably not gonna win this debate on the pros and cons of essential body mod would a higher level of drawbacks allow us to get more essences?
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:53 PM
Not only that we'd have more available freebies from this because of discounts hopefully
That is a good question
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:53 PM
Yes, in line with multi-essence.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:53 PM
Interesting
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:53 PM
what would vulnerability 1 with air be?
or water?
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:53 PM
Multi-Essence: You may choose three or more Essences. This functions as Dual Essence Mode except that the Drawback requirement increases by +200 EP for every essence after your second. For instance, the third Essence requires +300 EP in drawbacks, the fourth +500 EP, and so on.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:54 PM
Vulnerability (+100/+200 EP): You are weakened in some situations. ○ I: You have a specific vulnerability to a substance that either ignores your defenses or causes you damage or irritation. The more common the substance, the less pronounced the effect. This substance can be very specific, but taking this drawback will ensure that your enemies can either obtain or create an equivalent given enough time and effort. An example might be Superman’s vulnerability to Kryptonite (and synthetic equivalents) or an undead that is uncomfortable in sunlight..
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:55 PM
Hmm
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 02:55 PM
Discomfort, and a reduction to 85% of full capacity.
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 02:56 PM
Constant discomfort is a bit, uh...
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:56 PM
Yeah that sounds like itd suck
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:57 PM
compelled with stuff massively out of context might be ok
or just completely irrelevant
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:58 PM
I mean wardrobe malfunction ain't the worst if we dont get any shapeshifting perks
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:58 PM
like an inability to breakdance well
we may get shapeshifting perks
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:58 PM
Then again shapeshifting is useful yeah
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:58 PM
hell, we got one the first time round, the 20/10 appearance thing
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Awake 14-Feb-21 02:58 PM
Oh true
Hmm
Yeah compelled might not be the worst
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 02:59 PM
compelled... we would be able to choose what the compulsions are, yea?
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 03:00 PM
As long as they're above a certain threshold, yes.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:00 PM
What's said threshold
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:00 PM
the earlier breakdancing example wouldnt work?
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:01 PM
Actually compelled might make it less weird that Will just stands out
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 03:01 PM
Use the examples in the drawback as a baseline.
The breakdancing example is more of a restriction than a compulsion. The compulsion to break out into terrible breakdancing would count, however.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:03 PM
Hey Will what's your thoughts on Gold
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:03 PM
Not a single monster has been sapient, so the standout one should be safe. Gold? I mean, I like it as much as anyone does, I guess.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:03 PM
could be a compulsion to hum or sing to relax as one of them
given it's supposed to be annoying and quirky rather than life-threatening i doubt you'll be belting out opera
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 03:05 PM
To clear the threshold, that compulsion would be near-constant.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:05 PM
sound good to you, will?
actually
im being dumb Unnatural Presence (+100 EP): You exude a subtle, unnatural vibe that goes unnoticed by most sentient creatures, but disturbs beasts and other natural beings. Dogs bark and growl, deer flee, and crows flock to your presence. this might screw with the monsters
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:06 PM
It sounds like a one-way trip to a sore throat.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:06 PM
It might piss them off
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:06 PM
^
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 03:07 PM
(harem king compulsion)
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Pika 14-Feb-21 03:07 PM
(Lol)
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:07 PM
Compulsion to collect something maybe, something that might not be on the islands often?
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:07 PM
The crows flocking thing seems to imply that some creatures would be attracted towards me instead of repelled.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:07 PM
Wont be an itch that gets scratched but also hopefully shouldn't distract will
Yeah
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:08 PM
actually, a constant itch might be a good compulsion
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:08 PM
But what if the itch gets bad enough that it distracts me from other things?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:08 PM
oh point
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:08 PM
Point
They gotta be odd ticks but nothing too...distracting
Maybe a compulsion to speak in a certain accent?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:08 PM
...vulnerability: atoms (edited)
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 03:09 PM
Constant discomfort with no reprieve, no reduction in power or vulnerabilities.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:09 PM
Constant discomfort seems so...awful
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:09 PM
i think we can go further to lower the discomfort
vulnerability: existance
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:10 PM
Will just cancels out and gets deleted from reality
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 03:10 PM
Exact same deal as last time.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:10 PM
hm
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:11 PM
Entropy?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:11 PM
well, constant discomfort is something that can probably be adjusted to - i always have a sore back and im just fine
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randomhuman44 14-Feb-21 03:11 PM
If the drawbacks are too big we can just go back to -choices/+clarity
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:11 PM
we'll probably want to stop once we have 2 essences
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 03:11 PM
It's fiat-backed discomfort.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:11 PM
Note: These drawbacks apply to all jumps which don’t directly contradict them. Because they are chain-long drawbacks, if a drawback is reliably circumvented, the points should be “paid back” or a new drawback of equivalent points should be selected. You may also use UDS drawbacks with some limitations (see Notes section for details).
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:12 PM
I dont wanna make Will uncomfortable constantly though
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:12 PM
well why are you picking drawbacks then
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:12 PM
Because its useful
Being slightly more noticed isnt constant discomfort
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Monika BOT 14-Feb-21 03:13 PM
Standout: Noticed is a good deal, I think.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:13 PM
it isn't slight, if these are equivalent scale
lets just stick with the one essence for the moment, since everything else sucks
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:13 PM
Not all drawbacks are equal even if they're the same cost
I agree
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:13 PM
Sounds like a plan. ^
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:13 PM
Now the question is what essence
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:16 PM
King, Explorer, and Crafter all seem pretty topical.
I like Healer.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:16 PM
Healer could be good
Brute would leave you better able to handle things alone if needed
But given how last time went
Maybe healer is the better choice
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:17 PM
druid is a good middle ground between healer and explorer
crafter is somewhere between mad scientist and healer
i like crafter
biomedical and strategic mastery?
plus an inventory?
then again, essence of the shapeshifter is also very good
healer seems like it may be best
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:20 PM
Yeah, agreed.
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Awake 14-Feb-21 03:21 PM
Will becoming support class mc
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:21 PM
I'd be down for that.
Which drawback are we taking, then? Standout?
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:23 PM
standout yea
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:23 PM
Cool.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:23 PM
we'll probably wanna upgrade blank to help deal with any long distance research people may be doin on you, just in case
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:24 PM
Agreed.
So, now for the PR.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:24 PM
that one has a larger variety of drawbacks, so
hey actually
isnt there one that lets jumpchan record everything?
would that be good for the research?
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 03:27 PM
I'd have that anyway, now that I'm an admin.
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Lucky_Plucky21 14-Feb-21 03:27 PM
Great
Welcom Jumpy~Tan
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:28 PM
so, no points for that then, huh
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 03:28 PM
You could get big benefactor for extra points, sure.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:30 PM
we only need 100 points to get access to the basics of the personal reality yea?
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Admin Jump-chan BOT 14-Feb-21 03:31 PM
That's right.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:33 PM
Bat Cave (+50 WP): Your Personal Reality is now an actual batcave. The ceiling has been replaced with stalactites and bats will fly around all the time. Thankfully, just like the Batman’s Batcave, they won’t actually poop on everything. Warehouse Funk (+100 WP): Your Warehouse no longer odor-scrubs itself. It will smell like people and everything else you have inside it. Any attempt to deal with this problem can mitigate it but never completely get rid of it. Zero Time (+100 WP): You no longer have any downtime between jumps. Lost and Found Section (+100 WP): Things that get misplaced in every world you visit keep winding up in your Personal Reality. Expect a large number of random socks, pennies, the occasional shoe... a car... very seldom will it be useful, and you’ll never really know where in your Personal Reality the crap is being dumped. Sorting Solutions will never properly be able to handle the junk from the current jump, but by the end of each jump they’ll have adapted to that jump’s stuff.... just in time for a new batch.
seems like good stuff to pick
Big Benefactor might be too much given the general level of danger you're potentially in on the regular
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William BOT 14-Feb-21 03:33 PM
Agreed.
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Limina Idling | Hours 14-Feb-21 03:34 PM
zero time doesn't matter given how bootleg your jumpchain has been
lost and found section is actually useful
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